Keke Palmer's podcast interview with Michelle Buteau is pure joy

"When people say we fight for joy, I fight for it, within myself, for everybody else."
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Keke Palmer interviewing Michelle Buteau.
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If you're looking for a brilliant interview between two icons at the top of their game, watch Keke Palmer interviewing Michelle Buteau.

On the latest episode of Baby, This is Keke Palmer, the podcast host (and Mashable 101 alumnus) chats with the Survival of the Thickest and Babes star and it's simply glorious to watch. The pair talk about the latest and final season of Buteau's Netflix show, her history-making Radio City Music Hall show, motherhood, growing up in Central Jersey with Caribbean heritage, the worst interview questions ("What would you ask your younger self?"), and they play a chaotic game of Password.

Best bit?

Palmer and Buteau's conversation about body confidence and the exhausting shaming comments Buteau's been told about by people in her life, from her family to producers.

"I always say representation is so important, because if you don't see yourself, how do you ever know that you could be it? And how do you learn about anybody else, if you're just seeing the same type of people all the time, the same type of bodies?" says Buteau, explaining how she found her now-signature sense of self love and confidence despite these negative comments.

"I was angry for a while, and comedy really saved me because I was able to talk about it, make it funny, yell, and eventually go the therapy," Buteau later adds. "But I'm thankful for those experiences, because when people say we fight for joy, I fight for it, within myself, for everybody else. And now I know how to love my children and how to raise them. Because I'm like, it ain't about even me, it's you, this is your body. The most important relationship you will ever have is the one you have with yourself.

"So I am actually thankful for those experiences because they really have taught me how to live in an unbridled, joyful way where nobody can fucking touch it."

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Shannon Connellan
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Shannon Connellan is Mashable's Senior Editor, General Assignments, based in London. She has been Mashable's UK Editor (and still manages the illustrious UK team) and Australia Editor, but emotionally, she lives searching for Exit 8. A Tomatometer-approved critic, Shannon writes about entertainment, tech, social good, science, culture, and Australian horror, and loves to nerd out with movie stars, filmmakers, and TV creators.


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