Are trans women the OG 'looksmaxxers'? Clavicular confronted on the subject in viral clip.

"Looksmaxxing" influencer Clavicular was recently approached by three trans women, prompting a discussion on which community — incels or trans women — really started the intense beauty movement.

In a viral video clipped from a recent Kick stream, Clavicular was seen eating at a Florida restaurant when his friend, Andrew Morales, aka the "Cuban Tarzan," spotted three attractive women and pushed the camera their way to show the "gooners."

Soon, the three women made their way to Clavicular’s table, with one asking, "Why am I mogging you right now?" Mogging is a term to describe outshining someone’s beauty.

"I’m dragqueenmaxxing right now, no shade," the unnamed woman added.

The three women then told Clavicular, also known as 20-year-old Braden Peters, that they were trans. Clavicular responded by asking questions about the women’s anatomy.

The discussion changed when the woman who first approached the table told Clavicular, "You know that trans women are the OG looksmaxxers?"

Clavicular seemed to acknowledge trans women’s role in the beauty practice, which involves extreme skin, hair, fitness, and nutrition routines, as well as the use of steroids and hormones (and even surgery, like bonesmashing). The woman who first approached the table told Clavicular, "I do the peptides, I’m on reta."

Clavicular acknowledged that trans women on Reddit were using looksmaxxing terms back in the early 2020s.

But when one of the women said, "You’re like copying us," Clavicular demurred, shaking his head.

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The women then ask for Clavicular to judge their appearance, but he seems to have had enough of the exchange and refuses. While Clavicular expressed his usual boredom and superior attitude with the women, he didn’t insult them. Morales, on the other hand, expressed transphobic attitudes by repeatedly apologizing for finding the women attractive before discovering they were trans.

Clavicular's political philosophies aren't entirely clear, though he's done interviews and collaborated with right-wing influencers, manosphere figures, and white supremacists. He also expressed vaguely transphobic attitudes previously, according to Them.

As far as which community first embraced looksmaxxing, it's widely accepted that the incel (involuntarily celibate male) community of the early 2020s was the first to coin the phrase and base much of their personalities on maximizing their appearance.

Trans women, of course, have been around since people knew what "transgender" meant, and have a long history of altering their appearance to not only be more beautiful and powerful, but to more accurately align with their gender identity.